1
00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,399
previously on Dumbgeons and Dragons.

2
00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:28,560
Welcome to Dumbgeons and Dragons, I'm your dungeon master Russ More, he, him, also with me today is Amy More.

3
00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:39,920
It is she, her, and it's my birthday on the day of this record. I don't know when you're listening to it, but retroactively think, hey, it was Amy's birthday on that day.

4
00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,520
Three months ago as it was released.

5
00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:42,020
Perfect.

6
00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:43,060
Yeah.

7
00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,439
And Carla Max did.

8
00:01:45,439 --> 00:01:57,760
She, her playing lip-synchy pip diggins. I mean, why not just three months in the future think like happy year and a quarter birthday to Amy?

9
00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:03,200
Because she's great. And she could use your positive vibes today. Probably.

10
00:02:03,359 --> 00:02:08,080
Yeah. Also, I'm, I'm in, I'm embodying Sia and Nyantor.

11
00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,159
Characters.

12
00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:10,960
I didn't.

13
00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,400
It's all right. Tom Laird.

14
00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:19,080
Yep. Here. It's Amy's birthday. Happy birthday, Amy. And I'm playing Flint Firebeard.

15
00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,680
And joining us again today, it's Kyle Clasett.

16
00:02:21,879 --> 00:02:27,719
Hey everyone, he, him, happy birthday, Amy. And I am going to be playing Vorunax.

17
00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,199
Excited to be back, of course, as always.

18
00:02:30,359 --> 00:02:36,799
And today we're doing, you know, something very different. It's called a planning episode. We'll get to that in a minute.

19
00:02:36,799 --> 00:02:43,199
But where we especially don't do planning is over on Patreon, Patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast, where that's a lie too.

20
00:02:43,199 --> 00:02:47,359
We plan things and release them on a schedule so you know when they're coming.

21
00:02:47,359 --> 00:02:54,759
But it sounds more fun when we're just off the cuff and something appeared today. It's great. It's fun. It's mysterious.

22
00:02:54,919 --> 00:03:01,359
But when you are a patron, you get an episode dedicated to you, like today's patron, Cesserus.

23
00:03:05,359 --> 00:03:10,840
Join us today at Patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast for all of the planning that we do over there.

24
00:03:11,039 --> 00:03:13,439
And now, fuck it, let's play.

25
00:03:13,439 --> 00:03:14,959
Or plan.

26
00:03:14,959 --> 00:03:16,039
Or plan, yeah.

27
00:03:16,039 --> 00:03:19,560
How do we plan? First question.

28
00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,879
Oh, great question.

29
00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:24,159
We have not done this before.

30
00:03:24,159 --> 00:03:25,359
On our strong suit.

31
00:03:25,359 --> 00:03:26,560
Not successfully.

32
00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,359
I mean, I remember thinking of plans and then not implementing them at all.

33
00:03:30,759 --> 00:03:32,960
So I was planning to plan.

34
00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,159
I think it counts.

35
00:03:34,159 --> 00:03:35,840
Yeah, totally counts.

36
00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,359
I love canceling plans. Is that something?

37
00:03:38,359 --> 00:03:39,359
Me too.

38
00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:42,759
Let's not go to the abyss.

39
00:03:42,759 --> 00:03:47,759
What happens when you get five millennials in a Google meet?

40
00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,359
Nothing they've likely canceled already.

41
00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:59,960
All right, let's set the scene a couple different ways.

42
00:04:01,359 --> 00:04:03,359
One as characters.

43
00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,560
The Night Hunter, Lipsinki, Flint, Vorunax, Grancis and Donnie

44
00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:16,759
are all characters that are in this potential scene that we're seeing kind of two different layers of for ourselves.

45
00:04:16,759 --> 00:04:27,159
There's the characters in World in an inn in Greenest around a table with a big map sprawled out.

46
00:04:27,159 --> 00:04:34,360
Vorunax drawing big lines and X's and skulls.

47
00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:35,759
Dash marks.

48
00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:38,159
Yeah, looks like a football playbook.

49
00:04:38,159 --> 00:04:39,360
Yeah, exactly.

50
00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,959
Here be monsters.

51
00:04:40,959 --> 00:04:42,759
And that's just the whole thing.

52
00:04:42,759 --> 00:04:44,360
There be monsters.

53
00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,560
Everywhere be monsters.

54
00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:46,959
Especially there.

55
00:04:46,959 --> 00:04:57,160
And as we zoom in on these super obscure details that we don't know yet, we zoom back out to us, the players playing the characters.

56
00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,360
Look at this meta play.

57
00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,560
Now we're just five friends sitting talking about what's on that map.

58
00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:04,360
Yeah.

59
00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,560
Because Russ doesn't know what's on that map.

60
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:15,160
So we're going to world build this abyss together and then Russ is going to take all these great ideas that we come up with and make them more dangerous.

61
00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:16,960
And use them to kill us.

62
00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,360
Because there's going to be bunnies.

63
00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:20,560
No, don't make anything.

64
00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,160
It's just like Ghostbusters.

65
00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,360
Don't picture something fun and cute.

66
00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,760
It just will be bad.

67
00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,560
That's true.

68
00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,360
So we'll start off.

69
00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:37,160
The goal is the bringing down of Orcus and the abyss.

70
00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:38,760
The layer of the abyss.

71
00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,360
Kyle, you might have this more quickly than I do.

72
00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,960
I can't remember where Orcus lives.

73
00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:47,860
In Orcusville.

74
00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:49,360
Orcus Town, I believe it is.

75
00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,960
Oh, man.

76
00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,560
That's water deep.

77
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,060
Literally trying to look it all up right now.

78
00:05:55,060 --> 00:06:00,259
Orcus, layer, abyss.

79
00:06:00,259 --> 00:06:01,860
Like which layer of the abyss?

80
00:06:01,860 --> 00:06:02,860
Thanatos.

81
00:06:02,860 --> 00:06:06,660
Thanatos, the 113th layer of the abyss.

82
00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:08,960
How many layers of the abyss are there?

83
00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:10,360
114.

84
00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,160
Oh, so he...

85
00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:11,960
Wow, okay.

86
00:06:11,959 --> 00:06:14,560
Why doesn't he live in the 114th?

87
00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:19,159
Well, it gets more cool the farther down you go.

88
00:06:19,159 --> 00:06:21,359
So he's the second coolest person?

89
00:06:21,359 --> 00:06:23,159
He's the second coolest.

90
00:06:23,159 --> 00:06:24,959
Or being who is the coolest?

91
00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:27,959
Demogorgon, who is technically cooler than Orcus.

92
00:06:27,959 --> 00:06:29,159
Oh, the Stranger Things guy.

93
00:06:29,159 --> 00:06:29,759
All right.

94
00:06:29,759 --> 00:06:30,959
Yeah.

95
00:06:30,959 --> 00:06:32,959
In a sense, yeah.

96
00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:34,159
It's exactly like that.

97
00:06:34,159 --> 00:06:35,159
Exactly like that.

98
00:06:35,159 --> 00:06:38,759
If that's what you want to picture, that's what you see.

99
00:06:38,759 --> 00:06:43,259
So to give a description of what Thanatos is.

100
00:06:43,259 --> 00:06:49,959
Thanatos, not to be confused with Thanos.

101
00:06:49,959 --> 00:06:51,360
Yeah, it's very similar.

102
00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,759
Thanos toast.

103
00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:57,159
Delicious breakfast to start the day.

104
00:06:57,159 --> 00:07:00,560
I typed Thanos into the D&D Beyond searcher.

105
00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,360
They're like, wrong IP.

106
00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,560
Get out of here, nerd.

107
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,459
Yeah, wizards.

108
00:07:05,459 --> 00:07:07,959
Wizards officially now is like this guy.

109
00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,560
So Thanatos, this lair was a land of ruin and death

110
00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,660
with sterile heaths, black forests, and desolate mountains

111
00:07:16,660 --> 00:07:19,560
filled with ruins and scattered tombs

112
00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,160
inhabited by a variety of undead.

113
00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,460
The Demon Lord Orcus, Prince of the Undead,

114
00:07:27,460 --> 00:07:29,160
ruled Thanatos.

115
00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,760
Jeez, just a prince?

116
00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160
That's why he's striving for more.

117
00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:37,760
In our story, he makes leaps and bounds really quickly.

118
00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:43,060
He's maintained a second lair in a fortress city of Naratir,

119
00:07:43,060 --> 00:07:45,459
the City of the Undead.

120
00:07:45,459 --> 00:07:48,060
Quiet, cold, and mostly empty city.

121
00:07:48,060 --> 00:07:50,360
City of the Dead is what I meant to say.

122
00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,360
But you figure it would be City of the Undead because.

123
00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:53,959
Yeah.

124
00:07:53,959 --> 00:07:55,959
And what's that called again?

125
00:07:55,959 --> 00:08:01,060
Naratir, N-A-R-A-T-Y-R, Naratir, Naratir.

126
00:08:01,060 --> 00:08:04,159
Of course, there was a mystery why in there.

127
00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,360
That is surrounded by an icy moat fed by the river Styx.

128
00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,460
The city used to be.

129
00:08:10,460 --> 00:08:11,660
Yep.

130
00:08:11,660 --> 00:08:13,260
Just like the band.

131
00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:17,660
Not like the Greek fable or anything like that.

132
00:08:17,660 --> 00:08:19,760
No, just the band.

133
00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,560
It's all based off of the band.

134
00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,960
The Greek story came later.

135
00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,860
And here's a great descriptor.

136
00:08:26,860 --> 00:08:31,360
The inner walls of the central castle of Bone

137
00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,159
were made of flesh and decorated

138
00:08:34,159 --> 00:08:37,259
with carpets made of hair.

139
00:08:37,259 --> 00:08:37,860
What kind of hair?

140
00:08:37,860 --> 00:08:38,659
So, Merkin City.

141
00:08:38,659 --> 00:08:39,259
Like, back here?

142
00:08:39,259 --> 00:08:39,960
We'll find out.

143
00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,860
It's Merkin City.

144
00:08:40,860 --> 00:08:42,159
It's just pubes.

145
00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:42,659
Perfect.

146
00:08:42,659 --> 00:08:43,960
He hires a lot of Merkin areas.

147
00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,759
What can we say?

148
00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:46,259
Yep.

149
00:08:46,259 --> 00:08:47,360
Sounds like a sully job.

150
00:08:50,259 --> 00:08:53,860
Let's take a moment here because who has the information

151
00:08:53,860 --> 00:09:00,259
as far as the abyss in World is Vorunax and Lipsinki

152
00:09:00,259 --> 00:09:02,360
from a future standpoint?

153
00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,159
Things might be different in the past,

154
00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:05,960
but more or less the same.

155
00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:06,559
Yeah.

156
00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,960
And Grancis has more of the other side sort of perspective.

157
00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,559
Yeah.

158
00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,159
The prison.

159
00:09:12,159 --> 00:09:14,360
The not free to roam around side.

160
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,559
And I guess Lipsinki has both of those.

161
00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,059
Yes.

162
00:09:17,059 --> 00:09:18,559
True.

163
00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,960
So what's your plan of attack?

164
00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,159
Well, I say we just go in guns and blaze.

165
00:09:23,159 --> 00:09:23,960
Right?

166
00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,460
Go on down Main Street and challenge them to a fight.

167
00:09:26,460 --> 00:09:27,259
Oh, hey.

168
00:09:27,259 --> 00:09:30,860
Man, I went downtown killing the workers.

169
00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:33,960
Plan A, guns ablazing.

170
00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:34,460
OK.

171
00:09:34,460 --> 00:09:36,960
Well, you've got to have some extreme plan, right?

172
00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,559
You need somewhere to be like, Amy, that's ridiculous.

173
00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,960
And then we can take three steps removed from that

174
00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,559
and work out a real plan.

175
00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:44,759
Exactly.

176
00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:46,960
Although, birthday plan, we might just

177
00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,059
have to go with it, guys.

178
00:09:48,059 --> 00:09:49,059
Maybe.

179
00:09:49,059 --> 00:09:50,960
It is my special day.

180
00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,860
What was going to be a several episode arc

181
00:09:52,860 --> 00:09:55,360
is now just going to be one and it's just a walk in.

182
00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:55,960
We all die.

183
00:09:56,460 --> 00:09:58,060
Pew, pew.

184
00:09:58,060 --> 00:09:58,860
And they're gone.

185
00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:01,860
Oh, I could die for a lot longer than 12 minutes.

186
00:10:01,860 --> 00:10:02,660
Yeah, absolutely.

187
00:10:02,660 --> 00:10:05,060
Also, there's a lot of characters in the scene,

188
00:10:05,060 --> 00:10:07,860
so it would take quite a while for us all to die.

189
00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:08,360
Yeah.

190
00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,360
So how do we picture getting there?

191
00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,060
Well, Varnocks would definitely

192
00:10:12,060 --> 00:10:15,160
bring up the fact that dead beasts periodically

193
00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,160
animate as undead mockeries of their former selves.

194
00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,759
So pretty much just be careful everywhere.

195
00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:26,559
And if we could mask ourselves as undead.

196
00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:31,559
Ooh, could I turn myself into an undead something?

197
00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,960
I don't think you can because of your distinct hatred

198
00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,460
for undead.

199
00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,059
Yeah.

200
00:10:37,059 --> 00:10:38,559
Because druids like life.

201
00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:39,460
That is true.

202
00:10:39,460 --> 00:10:41,960
We do like life.

203
00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,059
Yeah.

204
00:10:43,059 --> 00:10:46,759
Not that I want to nix that idea, but I do.

205
00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:47,360
There is the-

206
00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:48,360
There's no bad ideas.

207
00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:49,559
There's no bad ideas.

208
00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:50,360
Yeah, absolutely.

209
00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,159
So druid, wild shape into undead.

210
00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:57,560
But also, walking dead, just cover yourself in goo.

211
00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:58,060
In goo.

212
00:10:58,060 --> 00:10:58,560
Or in goo.

213
00:10:58,560 --> 00:10:59,060
Yeah.

214
00:10:59,060 --> 00:11:00,560
Yeah.

215
00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:01,860
Could gooify ourselves.

216
00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:03,860
So there's two different places.

217
00:11:03,860 --> 00:11:06,060
There's Thanatos, and then there's

218
00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:08,060
the city of the dead, the second lair,

219
00:11:08,060 --> 00:11:11,159
which it looks like there's a direct run down

220
00:11:11,159 --> 00:11:12,759
the river Styx.

221
00:11:12,759 --> 00:11:15,159
Any interest in going down the river Styx?

222
00:11:15,159 --> 00:11:18,159
Ooh, we could do a white water rafting situation.

223
00:11:18,159 --> 00:11:19,360
Ooh, fun.

224
00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,659
Could be a good skills challenge.

225
00:11:22,659 --> 00:11:23,960
Yeah.

226
00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,560
I'd want some tour guides.

227
00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:32,759
I think we need to bring back two japes and-

228
00:11:32,759 --> 00:11:33,759
Japes and flanks.

229
00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:34,360
Flanks?

230
00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:34,860
That's right.

231
00:11:34,860 --> 00:11:35,460
Are they dead?

232
00:11:35,460 --> 00:11:36,360
I didn't think so.

233
00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,560
No, I don't think so.

234
00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:37,960
They're fine.

235
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,360
They're in the background of the scene right now.

236
00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:41,060
Yeah.

237
00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:43,259
Always present, but never there.

238
00:11:43,259 --> 00:11:43,860
Yeah, perfect.

239
00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:47,759
So first step, we got to commandeer Karen's boat.

240
00:11:49,560 --> 00:11:51,460
And that's what we use.

241
00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:54,960
So first thing, defeating the ferryman of the dead.

242
00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:55,460
Right.

243
00:11:55,460 --> 00:11:56,560
Defeat or persuade.

244
00:11:56,560 --> 00:11:57,659
Or persuade.

245
00:11:57,659 --> 00:12:00,159
Because I do think that he requires payments.

246
00:12:00,159 --> 00:12:02,159
That's what, yeah, two coins on the eyes.

247
00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,759
And is unjudgmental as to, like, all he does

248
00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:07,960
is take people on the boat.

249
00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,960
That's true.

250
00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,960
And if we look like we're dead, even more of a reason.

251
00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:13,560
Right?

252
00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,159
Sharon's not going to be like,

253
00:12:15,159 --> 00:12:17,060
I don't know about these dead guys.

254
00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:18,159
No, they're just dead guys.

255
00:12:18,159 --> 00:12:18,960
Let's go.

256
00:12:19,759 --> 00:12:23,060
Now, I know you didn't say this, but I heard

257
00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:25,160
you call it Karen's boat.

258
00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,360
Yeah.

259
00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,360
Because I imagine, I like to imagine that Karen

260
00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,960
is very, very upset.

261
00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,360
She's got a short bob.

262
00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,460
She wants to speak with the manager.

263
00:12:36,460 --> 00:12:37,259
OK.

264
00:12:37,259 --> 00:12:39,560
I've heard it announced both ways.

265
00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:40,160
I don't know.

266
00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,360
I've never really stepped one way.

267
00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,360
Yeah, no, I just pictured, of course, the meme.

268
00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,460
I was like, Karen's boat.

269
00:12:47,460 --> 00:12:48,060
Interesting.

270
00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:48,560
OK.

271
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,260
She'd like to speak to our manager.

272
00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:52,260
Who said you could be on this boat?

273
00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:53,260
It's like, well, it's your boat.

274
00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:54,460
You're the manager.

275
00:12:54,460 --> 00:12:55,460
I don't care.

276
00:12:55,460 --> 00:12:57,460
Ooh, ooh, I can change my appearance.

277
00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:59,560
Yeah, without becoming the thing, right?

278
00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:00,160
So.

279
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,560
Without becoming the thing.

280
00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,860
Yeah.

281
00:13:02,860 --> 00:13:05,960
My basic shape can stay the same.

282
00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,460
Oh, yeah.

283
00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:10,060
And I can just change my appearance however I wish.

284
00:13:10,060 --> 00:13:12,860
So I can look as dead as I want to.

285
00:13:12,860 --> 00:13:13,660
Awesome.

286
00:13:13,660 --> 00:13:15,760
So, yeah.

287
00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,560
OK, so so far we've got a plan

288
00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:21,160
of looking like the dead or undead.

289
00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,860
Defeating the ferrymen of the dead

290
00:13:23,860 --> 00:13:26,760
or persuading them, one or the other.

291
00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,360
Probably better to try and persuade

292
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,860
before you try and defeat them.

293
00:13:29,860 --> 00:13:30,560
Yeah.

294
00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:31,660
Yeah.

295
00:13:31,660 --> 00:13:34,260
A before B.

296
00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:35,460
Except after C.

297
00:13:35,460 --> 00:13:36,560
Yeah.

298
00:13:36,560 --> 00:13:37,460
For Sharon.

299
00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:40,060
So that would take you right to, in theory,

300
00:13:40,060 --> 00:13:41,960
right to the fortress.

301
00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:42,460
Cool.

302
00:13:42,460 --> 00:13:45,460
How do we get to the River Styx?

303
00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:47,759
Let's work in reverse a little, shall we?

304
00:13:47,759 --> 00:13:51,460
So we figured out how to get to the fortress.

305
00:13:51,460 --> 00:13:55,460
Well, first you start with too much time on your hands.

306
00:13:55,460 --> 00:13:56,560
Too much.

307
00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:59,060
Yeah.

308
00:13:59,060 --> 00:14:00,759
Well, you've got to go into hell.

309
00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:01,560
I do believe.

310
00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,060
Right.

311
00:14:02,060 --> 00:14:06,460
Is there like a big green tube somewhere

312
00:14:06,460 --> 00:14:07,460
that we can Mario or something?

313
00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:08,460
Like a Mario tube?

314
00:14:08,460 --> 00:14:09,759
I'm into it.

315
00:14:09,759 --> 00:14:12,759
I know the perfect Mario tube to hell.

316
00:14:12,759 --> 00:14:14,960
Yeah.

317
00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,460
Who would have information about the River Styx?

318
00:14:18,460 --> 00:14:20,460
Anybody reasonably?

319
00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:23,759
Vorunax, maybe, because you might have traversed it.

320
00:14:23,759 --> 00:14:24,259
Yeah.

321
00:14:24,259 --> 00:14:27,060
I mean, Thea may have read about it at the library.

322
00:14:27,060 --> 00:14:29,759
Well, what about what's Grancis?

323
00:14:29,759 --> 00:14:31,960
Grancis likely would.

324
00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,660
OK, let's make a history roll.

325
00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:35,860
Let's roll some dice here.

326
00:14:35,860 --> 00:14:37,360
See what our character's got.

327
00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:37,960
Let's see.

328
00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,259
Thea knows shit.

329
00:14:39,259 --> 00:14:42,060
She just rolled a one.

330
00:14:42,060 --> 00:14:44,860
So happy birthday to me.

331
00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,159
Grancis knows something.

332
00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:49,159
So she got a 17.

333
00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:50,860
Vorunax got an 18.

334
00:14:50,860 --> 00:14:52,659
15.

335
00:14:52,659 --> 00:14:56,060
Four before bonus, so just fine.

336
00:14:56,060 --> 00:14:58,759
Night Hunter got a 10.

337
00:14:58,759 --> 00:15:00,259
OK.

338
00:15:00,259 --> 00:15:04,060
So Thea and Night Hunter are going to be pretty useless.

339
00:15:04,060 --> 00:15:07,960
Knowledge necessarily not complete,

340
00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:13,060
but you know that touching or tasting the water

341
00:15:13,060 --> 00:15:16,560
can shatter a creature's intellect and personality,

342
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,560
as well as potentially strip away its memories.

343
00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,660
Well, we have all seen the scene with Dumbledore and Harry

344
00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:26,260
Potter and him forcing the water into his mouth, man.

345
00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:28,560
Like, you don't want to do it.

346
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,060
No.

347
00:15:29,060 --> 00:15:29,660
Exactly.

348
00:15:29,660 --> 00:15:30,360
Yeah.

349
00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,160
The scene scarred me for life.

350
00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,060
Oh, so if worse comes to worse,

351
00:15:34,060 --> 00:15:38,060
we can just have the ferryman drink the water.

352
00:15:38,060 --> 00:15:38,560
Perfect.

353
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,360
Dumbledore style.

354
00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,560
Dumbledore style, yeah.

355
00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:41,160
Force it.

356
00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,860
Splash it on him or something.

357
00:15:42,860 --> 00:15:43,360
Yeah.

358
00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:48,460
OK, so we need to bring a bucket or a small cup of some kind.

359
00:15:48,460 --> 00:15:50,259
Hey, put a bucket on your list.

360
00:15:50,259 --> 00:15:52,259
Oh, I don't want to carry a bucket around with me.

361
00:15:52,259 --> 00:15:53,259
Wait, it's a bucket list?

362
00:15:57,259 --> 00:15:58,460
I bet James has one.

363
00:15:58,460 --> 00:15:59,460
I mean, it makes sense.

364
00:15:59,460 --> 00:16:01,659
We are going to the abyss to fight Orcus.

365
00:16:01,659 --> 00:16:03,259
I bet James has one.

366
00:16:03,259 --> 00:16:03,759
Yeah.

367
00:16:03,759 --> 00:16:04,259
You know what?

368
00:16:04,259 --> 00:16:06,259
I guarantee James has one.

369
00:16:06,259 --> 00:16:08,960
Anything we don't want to carry, just say James has it,

370
00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,259
and it'll be fine.

371
00:16:10,259 --> 00:16:12,759
Who needs a bag of holding when you've got James?

372
00:16:12,759 --> 00:16:13,259
That's right.

373
00:16:13,259 --> 00:16:16,860
Well, I mean, when you've got rations and a mess kit,

374
00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:18,259
I'm sure you've got a cup.

375
00:16:18,259 --> 00:16:19,759
For sure.

376
00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:20,259
Right?

377
00:16:20,259 --> 00:16:22,059
A little mug with a handle, metal.

378
00:16:22,059 --> 00:16:25,259
You know, it's probably carabiner to my pack.

379
00:16:25,259 --> 00:16:25,759
There you go.

380
00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:29,860
So River Styx poses some problems in and of itself.

381
00:16:29,860 --> 00:16:33,659
But getting there, you are at the fortress,

382
00:16:33,659 --> 00:16:37,059
which, as far as Vorunax would be concerned

383
00:16:37,059 --> 00:16:39,159
or Lipsynche would be concerned, would be less

384
00:16:39,159 --> 00:16:42,659
guarded than going to Thanatos.

385
00:16:42,659 --> 00:16:46,860
It's the plane where he primarily would exist otherwise.

386
00:16:46,860 --> 00:16:47,360
Hold on.

387
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,259
Isn't the city in Thanatos?

388
00:16:50,259 --> 00:16:51,360
Yes.

389
00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:51,959
Yes?

390
00:16:51,959 --> 00:16:52,659
I thought so.

391
00:16:52,659 --> 00:16:53,459
It's a city.

392
00:16:53,459 --> 00:16:56,360
It's a stronghold within Thanatos.

393
00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,959
That's what I said.

394
00:16:57,959 --> 00:17:00,559
Which is, yeah, narrative, which is on Thanatos.

395
00:17:00,559 --> 00:17:01,059
Yeah.

396
00:17:01,059 --> 00:17:01,559
Yeah.

397
00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:02,659
You're right.

398
00:17:02,659 --> 00:17:03,959
Take that again.

399
00:17:03,959 --> 00:17:04,460
That's OK.

400
00:17:04,460 --> 00:17:06,859
Takes you straight to the city within.

401
00:17:06,860 --> 00:17:15,360
So it bypasses the hurdles of traversing the lair itself,

402
00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,860
but also puts them all right behind you.

403
00:17:18,860 --> 00:17:20,160
Something to consider.

404
00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:37,759
Not saying it's right or wrong.

405
00:17:37,759 --> 00:17:38,259
OK.

406
00:17:38,259 --> 00:17:41,960
Just knowing that if something goes sour,

407
00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,560
there's probably potentially a trigger

408
00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,460
that brings them all towards.

409
00:17:48,460 --> 00:17:50,059
I get the feeling that's kind of just going

410
00:17:50,059 --> 00:17:52,160
to be our whole experience in the abyss.

411
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,059
Yeah, that's fair.

412
00:17:53,059 --> 00:17:54,059
To be honest with you.

413
00:17:54,059 --> 00:18:01,059
Can Grancis dimension Doris just to the front door?

414
00:18:01,059 --> 00:18:03,660
Hey, Grancis, can you dimension Doris just

415
00:18:03,660 --> 00:18:04,759
right to the front door?

416
00:18:04,759 --> 00:18:06,460
I mean, I could plan a shift,

417
00:18:06,460 --> 00:18:10,059
but I can only do that once.

418
00:18:10,059 --> 00:18:10,960
OK.

419
00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,660
And then we're there.

420
00:18:12,660 --> 00:18:15,259
One way ticket to hell.

421
00:18:16,259 --> 00:18:20,660
Or maybe we save that.

422
00:18:20,660 --> 00:18:23,859
Maybe it needs to be the end thing.

423
00:18:23,859 --> 00:18:28,759
Then you need to have a nap until you can do it again.

424
00:18:28,759 --> 00:18:29,759
Right.

425
00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:32,559
Sleep more than a nap.

426
00:18:32,559 --> 00:18:33,359
OK.

427
00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:39,559
So I think not getting split up is a good idea.

428
00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:40,660
That is a good idea.

429
00:18:40,660 --> 00:18:44,059
No running off, trying to be hero.

430
00:18:44,059 --> 00:18:47,859
Kathy is staring down Night Hunter and Glim.

431
00:18:47,859 --> 00:18:48,659
Glim's not there.

432
00:18:48,659 --> 00:18:49,859
Yeah, no Glim.

433
00:18:49,859 --> 00:18:51,659
No.

434
00:18:51,659 --> 00:18:53,659
So just staring down Night Hunter ourselves.

435
00:18:53,659 --> 00:18:55,859
Just in your mind, you're staring down Glim.

436
00:18:55,859 --> 00:18:56,359
That's right.

437
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,960
We separated them because the tension was too much.

438
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,259
Glim's like, ow, someone's thinking about me.

439
00:19:02,259 --> 00:19:03,059
Totally.

440
00:19:03,059 --> 00:19:05,159
No, I can only do that once I get my book,

441
00:19:05,159 --> 00:19:08,159
but we'll talk about that later.

442
00:19:08,159 --> 00:19:10,659
So we don't want to split the party.

443
00:19:10,659 --> 00:19:12,259
No.

444
00:19:12,259 --> 00:19:14,460
We need to stick together, and especially when

445
00:19:14,460 --> 00:19:18,460
we're within a mile of the throne room,

446
00:19:18,460 --> 00:19:21,559
that's when things start going a little sideways

447
00:19:21,559 --> 00:19:22,859
in the heads of most people.

448
00:19:22,859 --> 00:19:26,059
If you're not a follower or blessed or something,

449
00:19:26,059 --> 00:19:29,059
you wind up with some madness going

450
00:19:29,059 --> 00:19:30,960
on, which would be good for no one.

451
00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,160
That is good to know.

452
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,859
Is there a way to not do that?

453
00:19:34,859 --> 00:19:35,859
Not go mad?

454
00:19:35,859 --> 00:19:37,359
Yeah.

455
00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,259
I do not know, to be honest.

456
00:19:40,259 --> 00:19:42,660
I never had to worry about it.

457
00:19:42,660 --> 00:19:43,759
Roll high?

458
00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:46,359
You want to get high before we go, Grancis?

459
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:47,460
Yeah, baby.

460
00:19:47,460 --> 00:19:48,859
All right, you do that.

461
00:19:48,859 --> 00:19:50,259
Grancis, are you high right now?

462
00:19:50,259 --> 00:19:52,059
Take some edibles, and let's go.

463
00:19:52,059 --> 00:19:52,859
Take some edibles.

464
00:19:52,859 --> 00:19:54,960
We'll wait two hours, then we'll go.

465
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,460
Yes.

466
00:19:55,460 --> 00:19:56,259
Yeah, exactly.

467
00:19:56,259 --> 00:19:58,759
No, you can let it hit you halfway into the journey.

468
00:19:58,759 --> 00:19:59,460
It's fine.

469
00:19:59,460 --> 00:20:00,859
Good idea, yeah.

470
00:20:00,859 --> 00:20:02,660
Everything's fine until it's not.

471
00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:04,460
Oh, shit, it's the wrong strain.

472
00:20:04,460 --> 00:20:07,559
If you wait, you won't go on the journey.

473
00:20:07,559 --> 00:20:09,160
You'll just stay home and eat chips.

474
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,360
Sounds like a journey.

475
00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:11,360
I mean, it sounds like a life which-

476
00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:12,960
We all have our own personal journeys, don't we?

477
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,860
Which circles back to Kyle's original idea,

478
00:20:14,860 --> 00:20:16,560
let's not go to the abyss.

479
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,360
Oh, yeah.

480
00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:19,960
If we could just, I mean, I know

481
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,060
they sent us all here to do this one particular task,

482
00:20:23,060 --> 00:20:24,259
which is super important.

483
00:20:24,259 --> 00:20:25,360
But if we could just like-

484
00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,560
But like chips?

485
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,160
I mean, imagine how many chips

486
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,360
that we could eat if we just let

487
00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:31,660
Orcus take over the world.

488
00:20:31,660 --> 00:20:32,759
It'd be fine.

489
00:20:32,759 --> 00:20:33,960
Would there be any chips?

490
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,759
Eventually.

491
00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:38,560
See, you get on board with Orcus,

492
00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:40,960
then we can have the undead make chips

493
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,259
and we'll be like, oh, yeah, here you go.

494
00:20:43,259 --> 00:20:44,359
It'd be good.

495
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,759
Remember, Orcus is just gonna kill you.

496
00:20:48,059 --> 00:20:50,759
And then you won't care about chips or anything.

497
00:20:50,759 --> 00:20:51,659
Right.

498
00:20:51,659 --> 00:20:53,460
Yeah, that's okay.

499
00:20:53,460 --> 00:20:54,960
So we need to get to hell.

500
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,559
I wonder if there's like someone maybe in town that-

501
00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:00,460
Is there some sort of phrase

502
00:21:00,460 --> 00:21:03,159
we can say three times while looking in a mirror?

503
00:21:03,159 --> 00:21:04,259
Ooh, yeah.

504
00:21:04,259 --> 00:21:05,159
Bloody Mary.

505
00:21:05,159 --> 00:21:07,759
So the river sticks courses through the lower plain,

506
00:21:07,759 --> 00:21:09,960
and so it goes through the abyss and Avernus.

507
00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,759
So entrances-

508
00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:13,259
Just have to get to Avernus.

509
00:21:13,259 --> 00:21:14,960
Entrances into Avernus,

510
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,259
a well-known one in Baldur's Gate.

511
00:21:17,259 --> 00:21:18,460
I know that one well.

512
00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:19,259
Yeah.

513
00:21:19,259 --> 00:21:21,059
Knowledge about Avernus,

514
00:21:21,059 --> 00:21:23,259
and it's where Tiamat is.

515
00:21:23,259 --> 00:21:24,559
So that's fun.

516
00:21:24,559 --> 00:21:26,059
And we didn't destroy her.

517
00:21:26,059 --> 00:21:28,559
No, you sent her back to Avernus.

518
00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:29,559
Fuck.

519
00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:32,059
I don't want to go there, you guys.

520
00:21:32,059 --> 00:21:33,759
Listen.

521
00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,359
Tiamat and we have this like

522
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,560
sort of a feud.

523
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,560
It may not be a great idea for her to know.

524
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,260
It's a bit of a thing.

525
00:21:42,260 --> 00:21:42,860
Just a little thanks.

526
00:21:42,860 --> 00:21:43,960
Killed my best friend.

527
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,160
No big deal.

528
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,660
But like wouldn't it be just the most awful thing ever

529
00:21:48,660 --> 00:21:52,160
if Tiamat got wind

530
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,260
of what we were doing and joined forces with Orcus?

531
00:21:54,260 --> 00:21:55,460
Wouldn't that be just terrible?

532
00:21:55,460 --> 00:21:58,260
I don't think Amy understands how earmuffs work.

533
00:21:58,260 --> 00:22:00,160
No, I don't.

534
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,960
Amy just tried to put her hands on my headphone ears

535
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,560
in order to block sound coming to her.

536
00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,559
I could have smacked your headphones off your ears,

537
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,460
but I thought that's pretty aggressive for someone

538
00:22:09,460 --> 00:22:11,359
who just made me muscle, so.

539
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,559
It's my birthday.

540
00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:13,359
It's right.

541
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,359
See what I want.

542
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,960
Happy birthday.

543
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,359
Thank you.

544
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:18,859
Don't write that down.

545
00:22:18,859 --> 00:22:20,059
Don't write what down?

546
00:22:20,059 --> 00:22:20,759
Happy birthday?

547
00:22:20,759 --> 00:22:21,659
Anything about Tiamat.

548
00:22:21,659 --> 00:22:22,460
Don't write that down.

549
00:22:22,460 --> 00:22:25,460
Anything having to do with Tiamat being all like.

550
00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:26,759
That's a whole other page.

551
00:22:26,759 --> 00:22:28,659
It's not even, I'm not even there anymore.

552
00:22:28,659 --> 00:22:32,559
So you find a way to get to the River Styx.

553
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:34,159
Are you trying to figure out how?

554
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:39,660
I feel like wouldn't Vorunax seems to be able to leave,

555
00:22:39,660 --> 00:22:42,759
because he was just out on a field trip doing stuff

556
00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:44,860
with Frimsbane.

557
00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:48,960
Yeah, how would Vorunax come and go?

558
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,860
To report back to his head honcho.

559
00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:54,759
Seeing if there was anything on the wand of Orcus,

560
00:22:54,759 --> 00:22:57,360
but I'm not seeing anything specific that's like, hey,

561
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,360
go back to hell.

562
00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,060
Yeah, like if you slam it on the ground,

563
00:23:01,060 --> 00:23:02,960
does it immediately open like, I don't know,

564
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,160
like a tube slide to hell?

565
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,660
Because that'd be great if it did.

566
00:23:06,660 --> 00:23:09,960
Let me check, wonk.

567
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:10,759
And he's gone.

568
00:23:10,759 --> 00:23:11,259
Oh, shit.

569
00:23:11,259 --> 00:23:11,759
Shit.

570
00:23:11,759 --> 00:23:12,360
Sorry, guys.

571
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:13,360
That sucked.

572
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:16,360
I'll see you in three to four weeks.

573
00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:17,160
To find a way.

574
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,559
How long it takes to get there?

575
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:19,460
And back.

576
00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:22,160
Yeah, it's the round trip that gets you.

577
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,559
Getting back there is pretty quick.

578
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:24,360
It's getting out.

579
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:25,059
That's the.

580
00:23:25,059 --> 00:23:27,360
Yeah, a lot of connecting flights on your way out.

581
00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:31,259
Let's come up with something, because obviously Vorkus.

582
00:23:31,259 --> 00:23:33,059
Vorunax can come and go.

583
00:23:33,059 --> 00:23:34,460
That's a ship right there.

584
00:23:34,460 --> 00:23:35,460
Right?

585
00:23:35,460 --> 00:23:37,160
Vorunax can come and go.

586
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,359
Do we imagine that to be some sort of teleportation,

587
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,559
some sort of portal magic?

588
00:23:43,559 --> 00:23:45,759
We've been big on portal magic with the Abyss.

589
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:47,559
I mean, probably portal magic.

590
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:48,359
Yeah.

591
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,059
It has kind of been the way.

592
00:23:50,059 --> 00:23:54,259
They're probably like hidden portals all over the place.

593
00:23:54,259 --> 00:23:56,259
You can go wherever you please.

594
00:23:56,259 --> 00:23:58,259
I'm going to argue with Vorunax here,

595
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,859
using the one straight to the front door.

596
00:24:01,859 --> 00:24:05,660
Maybe not the greatest idea, because there'd

597
00:24:05,660 --> 00:24:07,859
be like an immediate alarm.

598
00:24:07,859 --> 00:24:09,160
Yeah, for sure.

599
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,660
And we'd want to like acclimate.

600
00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:15,160
We don't want to get whatever the fanatose

601
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,660
version of the bends are.

602
00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:20,559
We need to just like work our way into it a little bit.

603
00:24:20,559 --> 00:24:21,160
That's right.

604
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:22,960
I mean, honestly, the bends are pretty terrible.

605
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,259
It's probably kind of the same.

606
00:24:24,259 --> 00:24:24,859
Yeah.

607
00:24:24,859 --> 00:24:25,859
Hell bends.

608
00:24:25,859 --> 00:24:26,559
Yeah.

609
00:24:26,559 --> 00:24:27,660
Hell bends.

610
00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:33,060
If I have a ring that's like, OK, yeah, let me just go there.

611
00:24:33,060 --> 00:24:35,960
Perhaps we can reach out to some kind of magical person

612
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,360
and be like, hey, can you change

613
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,160
where this drops me off?

614
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,360
Sure.

615
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:46,460
We adjust this demonic magical item.

616
00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:50,360
Do we want to send Vorunax in as like?

617
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:54,060
We could say I go ahead and, you know, clear a path.

618
00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:55,759
Breach the wheels, pave the way.

619
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:56,360
Well, yeah.

620
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,860
Or just like, you know, hang with Orcus or whatever.

621
00:24:59,860 --> 00:25:02,260
Knock out the security guards in the tower.

622
00:25:02,260 --> 00:25:07,060
And just kind of like, you know, I don't know.

623
00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:10,460
Go in, be cool guy on Orcus side.

624
00:25:10,460 --> 00:25:12,260
Hey, what are you guys doing here?

625
00:25:12,260 --> 00:25:13,660
Leave a window unlatched.

626
00:25:13,660 --> 00:25:14,460
Yeah.

627
00:25:14,460 --> 00:25:15,360
And then we show up.

628
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,660
And then Orcus is like, who the fuck are these people?

629
00:25:17,660 --> 00:25:18,860
And you're like, I don't know.

630
00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,060
Except I do, motherfucker.

631
00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,460
And then like, oh, what?

632
00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:24,660
And then Orcus is like, I had no idea.

633
00:25:24,660 --> 00:25:25,960
And then we were like, that's right.

634
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,059
He's been on our side the whole time.

635
00:25:28,059 --> 00:25:28,759
And then?

636
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:30,460
And then Vorunax rips off his mask.

637
00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:31,460
And he's Ashton Kutcher.

638
00:25:31,460 --> 00:25:33,160
He's like, you got punks.

639
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,460
Oh, shit.

640
00:25:34,460 --> 00:25:35,660
I did not see that one coming.

641
00:25:35,660 --> 00:25:37,559
I did not expect that.

642
00:25:37,559 --> 00:25:38,460
Where's my Von Dutch hat?

643
00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:39,259
Give it to me.

644
00:25:39,259 --> 00:25:40,860
So like something like that?

645
00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:42,960
I'm game to try to figure that out.

646
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,460
OK.

647
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:45,460
You know, pretty much like set the path for y'all.

648
00:25:45,460 --> 00:25:48,259
It's like, I'll go ahead, leave you some breadcrumbs.

649
00:25:48,259 --> 00:25:49,660
You get down there.

650
00:25:49,660 --> 00:25:51,759
We'll rendezvous.

651
00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:55,460
My only worry is, will he turn on us?

652
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,559
What if he turns when he's out of our sight?

653
00:25:58,559 --> 00:25:59,160
I don't know.

654
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,559
He got that magic memory horse.

655
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:03,360
That's true.

656
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,860
The magic memory horse.

657
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:07,259
I mean, I'm assuming that's the title of the episode, Ross,

658
00:26:07,259 --> 00:26:08,360
is Magic Memory Horse.

659
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:11,360
The magical memory horse is coming to take you away

660
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:13,360
from here to the abyss.

661
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,559
I mean, we send him back alone.

662
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,559
And he gets the Orcus madness.

663
00:26:19,559 --> 00:26:23,559
Oh, but you know, carrying the wand of Orcus,

664
00:26:23,659 --> 00:26:27,259
I haven't experienced any issues with that.

665
00:26:27,259 --> 00:26:31,659
So there's probably some kind of exception

666
00:26:31,659 --> 00:26:35,859
provided to the upper echelon of servants.

667
00:26:35,859 --> 00:26:36,460
Right.

668
00:26:36,460 --> 00:26:39,159
He probably wants you in your right mind.

669
00:26:39,159 --> 00:26:44,859
How does Orcus get information?

670
00:26:44,859 --> 00:26:46,460
Is he psychic?

671
00:26:46,460 --> 00:26:48,859
Can you read minds?

672
00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:56,660
Well, sometimes the wand may communicate back to him.

673
00:26:56,660 --> 00:26:58,960
So what the fuck?

674
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,760
You know, there is that.

675
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,960
We could work on destroying it, too.

676
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,860
So I'm probably already busted.

677
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:08,360
Wait, wait, give me the wand.

678
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:09,960
He puts it in a closet.

679
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,460
I do not know this is good ideas.

680
00:27:12,460 --> 00:27:14,860
You put wand in closet.

681
00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:15,760
It is fine.

682
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,060
It does no longer listen.

683
00:27:17,060 --> 00:27:18,460
No, it's sleeping now.

684
00:27:18,460 --> 00:27:20,360
Wrap it in cloak, something.

685
00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:21,059
OK.

686
00:27:21,059 --> 00:27:23,360
So this entire time we've been talking.

687
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:24,559
Oh, shut up, baby.

688
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:25,460
Don't say a word.

689
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:27,059
Are you swaddling it?

690
00:27:27,059 --> 00:27:28,360
You told me to wrap it in a cloak.

691
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:29,960
That's very weird.

692
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,960
All this time we've been talking plan.

693
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,160
How to defeat Orcus.

694
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,660
This thing perhaps talks to Orcus back.

695
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:40,559
And he knows whole plan now.

696
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:46,160
You are no longer good pawn to use as surprise, good guy

697
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,360
and bad guy.

698
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:51,960
I mean, it at least talks to me.

699
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,460
It communicates with me like, you know, in the mind, brain.

700
00:27:57,460 --> 00:28:00,660
It hasn't mentioned about getting back to Orcus

701
00:28:00,660 --> 00:28:05,860
or anything like that, but it definitely hears me.

702
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:12,260
Well, so when we're a team in the future,

703
00:28:12,260 --> 00:28:14,460
Orcus isn't really a micromanager.

704
00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:16,660
Like we kind of just, you know.

705
00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:17,360
It's true.

706
00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,360
Trust us to do our own thing and get the tasks done

707
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:22,360
in our own unique and special and evil

708
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:23,960
and extra cool way.

709
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,060
Sounds like a really good boss.

710
00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:27,660
Is, he is.

711
00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,759
Surprisingly, yes.

712
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:34,259
But I mean, mostly just kind of like to the two of us

713
00:28:34,259 --> 00:28:36,460
and the rest of the world, pretty bad.

714
00:28:36,460 --> 00:28:39,460
How is health benefits?

715
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:40,660
Elion would have liked that.

716
00:28:40,660 --> 00:28:41,460
That was a good one.

717
00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:44,660
I will write that down.

718
00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:48,960
But in this time, is he like right now,

719
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,759
is he waiting for you to get back to him and say,

720
00:28:52,759 --> 00:28:54,460
Oh, yeah, you were just on a thing.

721
00:28:54,460 --> 00:28:55,960
Report on what happened.

722
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,360
You were just on a kind of on a mission.

723
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Do you need to get back to him

724
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,060
or are you going to just kind of roll up

725
00:29:02,060 --> 00:29:03,060
at your own time?

726
00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:05,860
Because that will sort of, you know,

727
00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:08,660
depend if you need to get back soon

728
00:29:08,660 --> 00:29:10,560
or he'll be suspicious.

729
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,560
I mean, who better to bring back in my endeavor

730
00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:18,460
with God, he's already dead

731
00:29:18,460 --> 00:29:19,960
and I just can't even remember his name

732
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,659
because he made no impression upon me.

733
00:29:22,659 --> 00:29:26,359
But Thelonious Primsbane.

734
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:29,059
Yes, that's cocky motherfucker.

735
00:29:29,059 --> 00:29:30,659
That's it.

736
00:29:30,659 --> 00:29:33,059
Now, in my endeavor to figure out

737
00:29:33,059 --> 00:29:35,059
if he'd be a good servant for Orcus

738
00:29:35,059 --> 00:29:36,559
in our time of need,

739
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:42,460
I capture the heroes that managed to stave off Tiamat.

740
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:43,659
What an offering that would be

741
00:29:43,660 --> 00:29:46,960
to bring upon the Demon Lord

742
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,560
as my prisoners.

743
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,960
Oh, and then we are not prisoners

744
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,660
and then we attack.

745
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,960
Yes.

746
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,960
No, yes, yes.

747
00:29:58,960 --> 00:29:59,660
Absolutely.

748
00:29:59,660 --> 00:30:00,660
That's right.

749
00:30:00,660 --> 00:30:03,060
Yes, you're not actually prisoners.

750
00:30:03,060 --> 00:30:03,759
Sorry.

751
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:05,160
I'm working on it.

752
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,560
I promise.

753
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,860
Worried.

754
00:30:10,860 --> 00:30:13,259
It is so hard working with turncoats.

755
00:30:13,259 --> 00:30:15,259
It's a hard adjustment to make to,

756
00:30:15,259 --> 00:30:17,660
you know, you've been just Orcus, Orcus, Orcus

757
00:30:17,660 --> 00:30:18,859
for years and years

758
00:30:18,859 --> 00:30:20,059
and then all of a sudden it's like,

759
00:30:20,059 --> 00:30:22,259
ah, actually, maybe that guy kind of sucks

760
00:30:22,259 --> 00:30:24,359
and it's just hard, you know,

761
00:30:24,359 --> 00:30:26,160
when he gives you all your power

762
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,960
and everything cool you can do is because of him.

763
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,960
It is a bit hard.

764
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,359
Lipsynche, I knew you before Orcus

765
00:30:33,359 --> 00:30:34,460
had his claws in you

766
00:30:34,460 --> 00:30:37,559
and you were amazing and awesome then.

767
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:41,559
Orcus had his claws in her then too.

768
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:45,559
At Blackpool?

769
00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:49,259
I mean, Grancis, we haven't really.

770
00:30:49,259 --> 00:30:51,659
Look, fair enough, sorry.

771
00:30:51,659 --> 00:30:53,559
Yeah, I mean, it's fine.

772
00:30:53,559 --> 00:30:55,859
I mean, Grancis and I also...

773
00:30:55,859 --> 00:30:57,559
That was yours to reveal, my bad.

774
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,059
Wow, okay, what is going on?

775
00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:02,859
Spent a lot of time together.

776
00:31:02,859 --> 00:31:07,960
Well, so all those cool powers that I have.

777
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,960
I mean, the claws, the sword or the shovel.

778
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,559
The digging, yeah, the digging.

779
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:23,059
I mean, Orcus is kind of like my fiend guy that...

780
00:31:23,059 --> 00:31:26,059
So I didn't know then.

781
00:31:26,059 --> 00:31:29,059
I didn't know in Blackpool.

782
00:31:29,059 --> 00:31:35,259
So, but then I got down there and then...

783
00:31:35,359 --> 00:31:38,559
So, technically...

784
00:31:38,559 --> 00:31:39,960
All right, well, now I'm confused.

785
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,460
Now, when we saved you from Blackpool,

786
00:31:44,460 --> 00:31:46,359
wait a minute, Vorunax...

787
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:47,559
Tried to.

788
00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:49,059
Tried to.

789
00:31:49,059 --> 00:31:51,859
Well, I mean, she could have still been in that cell

790
00:31:51,859 --> 00:31:53,259
with the, you know, dead stuff around.

791
00:31:53,259 --> 00:31:55,460
You definitely saved me from the jail.

792
00:31:55,460 --> 00:31:57,559
Yeah, not from other things,

793
00:31:57,559 --> 00:32:01,359
but like Vorunax, was it all just a ruse?

794
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,360
Was it all, were you even in trouble?

795
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Oh, well, I don't even know.

796
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,660
Funny, I don't think we've...

797
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:11,260
All our conversations together, Vorunax,

798
00:32:11,260 --> 00:32:12,860
I don't think we ever even talked about this.

799
00:32:12,860 --> 00:32:14,160
Did you know?

800
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,460
Because that was sort of a deal

801
00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:19,460
that I guess Orcus and I had made, but...

802
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:20,960
Wait, you made a deal with Orcus

803
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,160
and he still sent you down to live in the prison with him?

804
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Fiends are fun.

805
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,560
I mean, to be fair, Lipsinki,

806
00:32:29,659 --> 00:32:31,059
I just met you,

807
00:32:31,059 --> 00:32:33,259
so I have no clue what you're talking about.

808
00:32:33,259 --> 00:32:34,259
Oh.

809
00:32:34,259 --> 00:32:35,259
Well, Blackpool hasn't even happened yet.

810
00:32:35,259 --> 00:32:36,259
Yeah.

811
00:32:36,259 --> 00:32:37,259
Right.

812
00:32:37,259 --> 00:32:38,259
That's right.

813
00:32:38,259 --> 00:32:39,259
I'm trying to get up and going.

814
00:32:39,259 --> 00:32:40,259
Time fuckery.

815
00:32:40,259 --> 00:32:41,259
Of course.

816
00:32:41,259 --> 00:32:42,259
It's hard.

817
00:32:42,259 --> 00:32:43,259
I mean, you do look a bit younger,

818
00:32:43,259 --> 00:32:45,259
but you're eternally youthful,

819
00:32:45,259 --> 00:32:48,259
so it's a little bit hard to tell.

820
00:32:48,259 --> 00:32:49,259
Thank you.

821
00:32:49,259 --> 00:32:53,659
When did Lipsinki get captured?

822
00:32:53,659 --> 00:32:55,460
Pretty quick?

823
00:32:55,460 --> 00:32:57,259
Soon?

824
00:32:57,259 --> 00:32:59,259
How far along is Blackpool?

825
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:01,960
Do you have it on your to-do list?

826
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,960
Oh, I mean, it's one of the next things.

827
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:05,960
I was going to have Prim's Bane go

828
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,960
and draw some attention away,

829
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,960
and that was my first target

830
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:10,960
to get things started up,

831
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,960
to start kind of a home base of my old home.

832
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,960
Hey, if you're not inherently evil

833
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
and we do a better job of saving you,

834
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
we could have two yous.

835
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,960
Two Lipsinkis?

836
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:25,960
Yeah.

837
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Would that fuck things up?

838
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,960
Would your mind explode?

839
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,960
Is someone going to die?

840
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:30,960
How does time work?

841
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:31,960
No, time travel.

842
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960
I know how time itself works.

843
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Thank you.

844
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960
She looks over at Nighthunter

845
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,960
who's pointing up at the sun

846
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,960
and is showing the sun goes down.

847
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Yeah, I know how time works.

848
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,960
But would that be like,

849
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,960
do you think if you met you

850
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,960
I mean, I didn't know.

851
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,960
10 years ago.

852
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,960
In Blackpool,

853
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,960
I didn't know.

854
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:00,960
I hadn't like,

855
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,960
we didn't meet at a crossroads

856
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,960
and I signed away my soul or anything.

857
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960
Just, I mean,

858
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:08,960
does the world explode

859
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,960
if I see another version of myself?

860
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,960
It's a great question.

861
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,960
I'm not.

862
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,960
Maybe that's in Brancis' book.

863
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,960
Maybe there's something about that.

864
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,960
Like if you see yourself from another time.

865
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,960
Because I mean, in that respect,

866
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,960
we could have another one of me,

867
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960
another one of Flint.

868
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960
We could have,

869
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,960
who else was on that journey with us?

870
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,960
Oh.

871
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Well, isn't that where you met,

872
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,960
I mean, he didn't have a name then

873
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960
when we were in adjoining cells,

874
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,960
the prison, but the big guy made of the

875
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,960
Oh, yeah.

876
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,960
What was his name?

877
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Beefy Boy.

878
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Beefy Boy.

879
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:55,960
That's right.

880
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Well, I think that's just what we called him at the time.

881
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:01,960
That's a fun nickname.

882
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,960
It's a good one.

883
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960
Lex, I think, is the name.

884
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,960
Right. Yes.

885
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,960
Yes.

886
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Lex is, yeah, where he ended up.

887
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,960
I kind of like the other one better.

888
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,960
Well, I mean, that's a beefy boy.

889
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,960
But would that be, you know,

890
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,960
like, I mean,

891
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,960
the whole world hangs in the bAlydince

892
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,960
if we're able to get duplicates of ourselves

893
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
to Russ put us in this fucking situation.

894
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:30,960
And he's not here.

895
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960
And I feel like now this is what we're doing, Russ.

896
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,960
Now this is what we're doing.

897
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,960
You think you can go pee in the middle of our planning session?

898
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,960
Well, you can't.

899
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,960
No, you cannot.

900
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,960
Because now this is what we've decided.

901
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,960
Here's the plan.

902
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,960
You shouldn't have left us alone.

903
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,960
No, you shouldn't have.

904
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,960
OK, we are going to go to Blackpool.

905
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
We are going to get ourselves.

906
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,960
And we are going to...

907
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,960
Because then we'll have another...

908
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:56,960
This is awful.

909
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:57,960
I told you you shouldn't have left us alone.

910
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,960
Slip, sink, and Lex.

911
00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:00,960
Yes.

912
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,960
I mean, lower level versions of all of them.

913
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:03,960
Yeah.

914
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:04,960
We're going to get ourselves.

915
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,960
And we are going to infiltrate the abyss,

916
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960
like, with multiples of ourselves.

917
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:12,960
Think of the fuckery we could do.

918
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,960
And a portal opens there.

919
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Because that's how lip-syncing gets there.

920
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:17,960
Yes.

921
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,960
There is something kind of already that's perfect.

922
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,960
That's why I'm choosing it.

923
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,960
There's something that's, like, perfect for that event.

924
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,960
And not a lot of the townsfolk know about it,

925
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,960
but it was built on top of, you know, time,

926
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,960
ages, things.

927
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,960
We totally accidentally let lip-syncing get sucked

928
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960
through a portal in Blackpool.

929
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,960
So we could get sucked through that portal.

930
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,960
Hey, just to bring it up,

931
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,960
there's a real...

932
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,960
A person that I don't care to work with,

933
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,960
but maybe.

934
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,960
I don't know if Shangalar would turn out.

935
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:58,960
Oh, fuck that guy.

936
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,960
But if not, we still need to consider that

937
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,960
that dude could show up like that.

938
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:04,960
You don't...

939
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:05,960
That guy.

940
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960
You don't know this yet, but that guy?

941
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,960
You know how you probably already suspect

942
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,960
he's a bit of a dick?

943
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960
No, it's total.

944
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,960
He definitely is.

945
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,960
He, like, tries to go rogue.

946
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,960
He says there's this whole pyramid thing.

947
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,960
It's...

948
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:21,960
I mean...

949
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,960
He trapped us for ten years in a pyramid.

950
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960
We missed your whole ascension to power.

951
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,960
The whole thing.

952
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,960
That's kind of funny.

953
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,960
I mean, it was actually...

954
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:30,960
Okay, I know I said he was a dick,

955
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960
but that part was actually pretty funny

956
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960
because we were in there,

957
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,960
and then he...

958
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,960
You and I kind of just dip in at the end

959
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:39,960
and whatever,

960
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960
and we've basically destroyed everything

961
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,960
they know and love.

962
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,960
That sounds great.

963
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,960
And they don't even know about it.

964
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960
It's real hilarious, guys.

965
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:48,960
And then...

966
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:49,960
I mean...

967
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,960
Oh, yeah, sounds like good time.

968
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,960
I'm sorry.

969
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960
Like I said, it's really hard sometimes to...

970
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,960
That is okay.

971
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,960
Take all that anger and wanting to destroy

972
00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:03,960
and just destroy the hardest thing to destroy.

973
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,960
Orcas, I assume.

974
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960
But not as hard as me.

975
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:09,960
What?

976
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,960
Nothing, nothing, nothing.

977
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,960
I didn't...

978
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:12,960
No.

979
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,960
There's no love for orcas here.

980
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Not anymore.

981
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Hello.

982
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:24,960
Hello.

983
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Hello.

984
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:26,960
Hello.

985
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Well, a few of us would do that.

986
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,960
I mean, there was a note there.

987
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Hello.

988
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Yep.

989
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:35,960
Hey, everybody.

990
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Welcome to the middle.

991
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,960
We're here now,

992
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
and we're talking about how we have an amazing community

993
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:41,960
and we want you to be a part of it.

994
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:42,960
We hit 100 patrons.

995
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,960
Ring the bell.

996
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,960
Oh, yes.

997
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,960
I don't have a ding-a-ling-a-ling.

998
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:47,960
I still can't believe it.

999
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,960
I know.

1000
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,960
It's insane.

1001
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Russ has really been working overtime

1002
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960
on all his fake people.

1003
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,960
Especially since we've met so many of them

1004
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:56,960
in various ways.

1005
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Like, wow, Russ, it's amazing.

1006
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,960
After a point, you have to realize

1007
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,960
it's not just me with several different masks on

1008
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,960
in different Zoom windows.

1009
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
I mean, that Mission Impossible mask tech

1010
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,960
is pretty incredible.

1011
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960
I think I would have noticed before now.

1012
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,960
He's that good.

1013
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,960
I'm that good.

1014
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
What are we doing at 100 patrons?

1015
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,960
We are having a live show.

1016
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,960
Hell, yeah.

1017
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,960
So you motherfuckers better be there.

1018
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,960
That's the energy Russ told me to bring to this.

1019
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,960
That's where Russ told us to approach it.

1020
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Before I started the barber shop quartet.

1021
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960
It really swung like a complete 180.

1022
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960
It did, but I felt like someone said motherfuckers,

1023
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,960
and it needs to be said again.

1024
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:36,960
And by that I mean you lovely motherfuckers.

1025
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,960
So with that, the date is not quite set

1026
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,960
as we record this or release this.

1027
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,960
It will be set by the end of day on June 30th.

1028
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,960
But it's looking like a date later in July.

1029
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,960
And we hope that you can come join us

1030
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:51,960
because guess what?

1031
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,960
If it's one of those dates later in July,

1032
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,960
we have several people on the hook

1033
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,960
to come join us.

1034
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960
Yeah, we do.

1035
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,960
What?

1036
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:02,960
A regular cast member, Kyle Klassen.

1037
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,960
Regular cast member, Kristen Flemmons.

1038
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Of course, yeah.

1039
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,960
And not regular cast member,

1040
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960
but we wish she was, Cicero Holmes.

1041
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Yes.

1042
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,960
And we're very excited to hopefully welcome

1043
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,960
all of those people back to the table

1044
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,960
when we play the Improv Live show

1045
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,960
that we want you to be at,

1046
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:21,960
Patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast.

1047
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,960
We've got a new goal up there,

1048
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960
which we're just ironing out as we speak.

1049
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
We're heading into a very important business meeting,

1050
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,960
and it'll be up on Patreon

1051
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:30,960
hopefully by the time you hear this.

1052
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,960
Soon after.

1053
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,960
Soon after, regardless.

1054
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:33,960
There's another goal coming.

1055
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Don't hold us to that.

1056
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,960
It'll be up at some point.

1057
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,960
And it's going to be great.

1058
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,960
But right now, live show.

1059
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960
So sign up so you can be there

1060
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:40,960
and give us suggestions

1061
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,960
and help us make fools of ourselves.

1062
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
And just have some laughs with us.

1063
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,960
And see our dumb faces.

1064
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,960
And the faces of our wonderfully not dumb guests.

1065
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,960
That's right.

1066
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,960
And my crying dog.

1067
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,960
Because we love to hang out with you

1068
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,960
and we can do that

1069
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,960
at Patreon.com slash dumb dragon cast.

1070
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,960
Okay, bye now.

1071
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:58,960
Okay, bye.

1072
00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,960
Love you, motherfuckers.

1073
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,960
You make it really hard to trust you.

1074
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,960
I'm sorry.

1075
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,960
It's still fresh.

1076
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:10,960
No, we get it.

1077
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,960
It's still new.

1078
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,960
Oh, yeah.

1079
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,960
We threw this on you like 45 minutes ago.

1080
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Yeah.

1081
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Yeah.

1082
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,960
Four days ago.

1083
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,960
Forty, four days and 45 minutes ago.

1084
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,960
Sometime where it's still fresh.

1085
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:28,960
Yeah.

1086
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,960
I get it.

1087
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:30,960
Fuck you, Russ.

1088
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,960
So that's our plan now.

1089
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,960
So feel free to just completely.

1090
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,960
No, it's happening.

1091
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,960
He did multiple timelines to us.

1092
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,960
Well, obviously the counter move to this

1093
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,960
is to go find our alter time selves

1094
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,960
and develop an awesome team of ourselves.

1095
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:50,960
I will just point out.

1096
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,960
To defeat the bad person.

1097
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,960
That we're saying, in hindsight,

1098
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,960
we're acting like this is something we're doing to Russ.

1099
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:58,960
But really it's something we're doing to ourselves.

1100
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,960
Because then we're all going to be playing multiple characters

1101
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,960
and multiple versions of those characters.

1102
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960
There's only one way that this podcast can end.

1103
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,960
There's only one night hunter though, so that's good.

1104
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:09,960
That's true.

1105
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,960
So with each of your own characters killing each other?

1106
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,960
No.

1107
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:14,960
Guys, I knew we shouldn't have planned anything.

1108
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,960
I know.

1109
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,960
See?

1110
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,960
This is why we don't do this.

1111
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,960
We make it so much more complicated.

1112
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,960
Well, and I just think that it just fits with everything.

1113
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,960
The whole thematic thing that we're going with,

1114
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:35,960
which is why not make it as convoluted and weird as possible?

1115
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,960
That's a theme?

1116
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:38,960
It is now.

1117
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Well, ask anybody who listens to this podcast.

1118
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960
If you want to follow through with things,

1119
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Vorunax could go forth and grease the wheels a little bit

1120
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,960
while you get your identibuddies all lined up and on board.

1121
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,960
Or he can roll with you either way.

1122
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,960
Depends on where we want to land that plan.

1123
00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:06,960
So if Blackpool isn't set up yet, Vorunax has to go set it up.

1124
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,960
That's true.

1125
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:18,960
Which means he has to enact a large portion of his and his boss's plan.

1126
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:19,960
Right.

1127
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Which is to turn the whole city undead.

1128
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,960
Which also will make Orcus stronger.

1129
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,960
The city's kind of already undead.

1130
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,960
Which, yeah, he has to make the portal work.

1131
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,960
I'm just saying these things out loud.

1132
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,960
These are all information that we know.

1133
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,960
It has to make the portal work,

1134
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,960
which is a pivotal point in making all of the portals work.

1135
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,960
That kind of cascade out that bring about Orcus's rise.

1136
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Okay, hold on.

1137
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:50,960
Not saying it's a bad idea.

1138
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,960
I am down for it if that's the way you want to go.

1139
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,960
Hold on. No, I still want to go in this direction.

1140
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,960
But perhaps instead of him going ahead and setting it up,

1141
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,960
we find another way to get there.

1142
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,960
But we still intercept our people.

1143
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,960
You really are hard-driven to get two of yourselves playing

1144
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,960
the same characters in every scene from now until the end of the podcast.

1145
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,960
You're going to have to double-track everything you record.

1146
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,960
You know that.

1147
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,960
I'll just make a copy of my character and name it Thea 1 and Thea 2.

1148
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,960
No one will know.

1149
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Then they'll argue between each other.

1150
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,960
Why am I 2 and why are you 1?

1151
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,960
Probably.

1152
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,960
There will be a slap fight at one point.

1153
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,960
From a strictly above board production side of this,

1154
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,960
I see a huge problem with that.

1155
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,960
Yeah.

1156
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:43,960
But what?

1157
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,960
Oh, Russ.

1158
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:45,960
There's so many red flags with this play.

1159
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,960
I know.

1160
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,960
I don't like it.

1161
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,960
Okay, then we're definitely going ahead with this, you guys.

1162
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:52,960
Get on board.

1163
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,960
Russ doesn't like it.

1164
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,960
No, I'm just kidding.

1165
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,960
I like the Blackpool plan.

1166
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,960
The finding yourselves plan is going to be a difficult one to play out.

1167
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:05,960
Like hardcore.

1168
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,960
Yeah.

1169
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,960
In an auditory.

1170
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:12,960
What about finding just another Grancis once we get down to the abyss?

1171
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:13,960
Isn't he down there?

1172
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:14,960
He is down there.

1173
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:15,960
He is.

1174
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,960
No, he is.

1175
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:17,960
He's down there.

1176
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,960
Oh, he's not.

1177
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,960
He's not.

1178
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,960
Yep, he is.

1179
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,960
As soon as we do the ghost scene.

1180
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:31,960
I hate time because Grancis died long before Tiamat and then was wandering around

1181
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:38,960
the ghostly plane pissing off ghosts for a while and then got sucked in by Tom's Orcus

1182
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:45,960
ghost character who, after that, pulled him into the abyss basically.

1183
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:46,960
Right.

1184
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:51,960
What if, okay, adjacent plan.

1185
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:59,960
If Varnlox now knows that this first portal is like the beginning of the portals that

1186
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:08,960
we do want to stop Orcus and I guess destroy Orcus, but we also could work on stopping

1187
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,960
the plan, not just the man.

1188
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:12,960
Yes.

1189
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,960
Or not just the eternally naked being.

1190
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:22,960
If you want to interact with yourselves in this plane, might I posit an alternate

1191
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:28,960
view where the goal is to not bring them along with you buddy cop style, but to set

1192
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:34,960
a course for them to alter their progression through the timeline.

1193
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,960
You leave that lip-synchy bitch inside of her.

1194
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,960
Banana peel in front of Vorunax and like.

1195
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:41,960
Exactly.

1196
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:48,960
Because for them, the key turning point where shit goes sideways, jump 10 years

1197
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,960
in the future is going to.

1198
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,960
Callum Port.

1199
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,960
Sham Gam Alums.

1200
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:55,960
Yeah.

1201
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:02,960
If we already have this timelines Vorunax on our side and are not going to Blackpool,

1202
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,960
then they're already on a different course, right?

1203
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Because they won't find.

1204
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,960
While they stumble across Blackpool.

1205
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:10,960
Yeah.

1206
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,960
But if there's no portal there that's been set up, then ultimately like their

1207
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,960
course going forward is already drastically changed.

1208
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:18,960
Yep.

1209
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Unless we set the portal up to give them motivation to take out the other portals.

1210
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,960
So I still get to set a portal up.

1211
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,960
So the reason you go to Blackpool, if I remember correctly, is because trade had

1212
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,960
stopped.

1213
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:35,960
No.

1214
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:38,960
There was some like it wasn't like, Hey, it's a city of the undead because

1215
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,960
we didn't find out.

1216
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,960
You stumbled into it because you guys were coming back from.

1217
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,960
I feel like you guys were just on the way from taking Nulara's body home.

1218
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Yeah.

1219
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,960
Back to Waterdeep.

1220
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:47,960
Yeah.

1221
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Stumbled in, were brought in and then kind of found some weird shit

1222
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,960
happening and then took that information back to Waterdeep.

1223
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,960
Yeah.

1224
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:56,960
That's what happened.

1225
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,960
OK, so.

1226
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:58,960
Yeah.

1227
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:00,960
The trade thing was Mooklem and Sully coming from.

1228
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,960
I could even pose as the villain and they, oh no, you beat me.

1229
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,960
I retreat.

1230
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:10,960
And I don't don't even bother going to those other portals that I've set

1231
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,960
up.

1232
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,960
Well, they might just want to kill you.

1233
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,960
Really selling it.

1234
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,960
Oh, no, I would escape.

1235
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,960
It's easy.

1236
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,960
I obviously did it before.

1237
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,960
Yeah.

1238
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,960
I exist in the future.

1239
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:27,960
So.

1240
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,960
Well, not not anymore.

1241
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,960
Well, yeah.

1242
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,960
You're not helping me want to stay on your side by saying stuff like that,

1243
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,960
though.

1244
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,960
Well, no, no, you want you to stay on our side.

1245
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:39,960
Yeah.

1246
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:40,960
But I could.

1247
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,960
You've already died for the cause.

1248
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:43,960
Just one more portal.

1249
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:44,960
Yes.

1250
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,960
Yeah.

1251
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,960
But don't you got to kill a bunch of people to make that portal?

1252
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,960
Like, I don't know if I can.

1253
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Guys, I don't know if I can sign off on that.

1254
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,960
More people are going to die if I don't make that portal.

1255
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,960
Yeah, I know.

1256
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:04,960
And we, you know, I know it's like there's a cart barreling down a road

1257
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,960
and it splits off.

1258
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,960
One people.

1259
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,960
Right answer.

1260
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,960
Anybody like I feel like I'm making this choice for us and I shouldn't be

1261
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Flint.

1262
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Any thoughts?

1263
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,960
I mean, I don't love setting a portal up.

1264
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,960
Have you ever tried it?

1265
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,960
Rather, that just didn't didn't happen at all.

1266
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,960
Maybe you just haven't done it.

1267
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,960
Maybe it hasn't been the right portal for you.

1268
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,960
I mean, it's entirely possible.

1269
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,960
But yeah, it doesn't really sound like a great plan.

1270
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:33,960
All right.

1271
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,960
So to recap, we've got the river sticks where if you touch the water,

1272
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,960
you might get stupid.

1273
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,960
We've got Vorunax's Ringy Portal,

1274
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,960
but we got to find somebody to, you know,

1275
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,960
switch my dip shit and take a left at Albuquerque.

1276
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,960
And away you go.

1277
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,960
We've got continue Orcas's plan.

1278
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:58,960
Yeah.

1279
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,960
And go to the portal at Blackpool.

1280
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,960
I mean, no.

1281
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Yeah, no.

1282
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,960
Right.

1283
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,960
I mean, when you put it that way.

1284
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,960
I guess when you when you say it like that,

1285
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,960
Grancis, it does seem like that's kind of probably not exactly

1286
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,960
take a step back to take three forward.

1287
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:18,960
That's how I'm looking at it.

1288
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,960
You know, so I don't know what do we like GPS on the ring or what do we

1289
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:25,960
Well, Grancis, if we get your book back,

1290
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,960
is this something that you could finagle?

1291
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,960
Oh, well, I could take a look at it.

1292
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,960
I'm not really an artificer, so to speak,

1293
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,960
but I could I could cross some wires.

1294
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:37,960
No.

1295
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Or we could find somebody who knows.

1296
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,960
You guys have an artificer friend somewhere, don't you?

1297
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,960
No.

1298
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,960
That's Mooklim and Sully.

1299
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:47,960
No.

1300
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,960
We've met so many people.

1301
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,960
It's hard to keep track of them all.

1302
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,960
Or.

1303
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:53,960
Or.

1304
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,960
Not whore.

1305
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,960
I said or.

1306
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,960
Or.

1307
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,960
I have a whore before everything.

1308
00:50:59,960 --> 00:51:02,960
He's got so many gadgets.

1309
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,960
He's got so many.

1310
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:04,960
Yeah.

1311
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Or.

1312
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:06,960
Or.

1313
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:07,960
Or lax.

1314
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:08,960
No.

1315
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:09,960
Or.

1316
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,960
Ozark.

1317
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,960
The Bizard.

1318
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Yeah.

1319
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,960
The Guild of Nine Shadows, which we blew up at the end of Rise of Tiamat.

1320
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:16,960
Yeah.

1321
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,960
I wonder where he's at now.

1322
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,960
Oh, no.

1323
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,960
Let's go further back in time.

1324
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,960
I don't know if we do know an artificer.

1325
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,960
I feel like the only artificer I've played with has been Gabe in a game time.

1326
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,960
I'm sure we could pay an artificer.

1327
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:34,960
Yeah.

1328
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,960
I'm sure there just is, like, they're around, right?

1329
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:37,960
I could threaten an artificer.

1330
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,960
There is an artificer.

1331
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,960
It is a job, yes?

1332
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,960
This is before, that world hasn't ended.

1333
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,960
There still is, like, commerce.

1334
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,960
We just gotta find a cool one that understands, like, hey, you're changing where in hell we show up.

1335
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:55,960
It already takes me to hell, so you don't have to feel like a problem with it.

1336
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:56,960
It's not conflicting.

1337
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,960
You're just changing where I'm going.

1338
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,960
There's not too much to do.

1339
00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:01,960
Yeah, and if you don't, I'll kill you.

1340
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:02,960
Oh, no, no, no.

1341
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,960
I mean, no.

1342
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,960
Sorry.

1343
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:05,960
I won't.

1344
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:06,960
Yeah.

1345
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:07,960
I don't do that anymore.

1346
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Yeah.

1347
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:09,960
Unless I need to.

1348
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,960
We're coming up on, uh...

1349
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,960
Oh, God.

1350
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,960
Coming up on about a 50-minute mark here.

1351
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,960
I think if we can change where the ring takes us, try to get us as close to

1352
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,960
River Styx and go from there.

1353
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,960
I probably shouldn't fuck around with potentially just continuing Orcus's plan

1354
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,960
and setting off a chain of events that's going to allow him to gain power

1355
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,960
just as quickly as he has before.

1356
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,960
So, like, maybe this will be a bit of an interruption.

1357
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:42,960
Maybe you go down there and, like, go ahead a little bit, being all, like,

1358
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:47,960
it's a problem at Blackpool, yada, yada.

1359
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:53,960
I mean, lying to Orcus is difficult, but at the same time, I can always say,

1360
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,960
well, Primsbane proved complicated and slowed down my process.

1361
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:01,960
I'm seeking out other alternatives.

1362
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,960
Unfortunately, Blackpool is being pushed back a couple of weeks,

1363
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,960
but give me some time, and I'm sure I'll be able to make the next deadline.

1364
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,960
Just prove that it's still on the roadmap, and everything will be good.

1365
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,960
Yeah, yeah, we've had to put it on the back burner for now.

1366
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:19,960
Yeah.

1367
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960
Okay, all right, so find an artificer.

1368
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Get the ring fixed.

1369
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,960
Get some disguise kits so we can look and smell like the undead.

1370
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:28,960
Yes.

1371
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,960
Stinky disguise kits, got it.

1372
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,960
Teleport us down to...

1373
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,960
River Styx.

1374
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,960
River Styx.

1375
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,960
A location there on...

1376
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,960
Vorunax goes ahead.

1377
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,960
Does Vorunax go ahead?

1378
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:43,960
Well, do you?

1379
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:44,960
Maybe, yeah.

1380
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,960
Well, because I mean, like, once you're down there,

1381
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,960
is it not all just available to you because you live there?

1382
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,960
Did we like the prisoner routine?

1383
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,960
I've been a prisoner down there before.

1384
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:57,960
Could do the prisoner routine.

1385
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,960
Well, you're a prisoner down there currently, though, Grancis.

1386
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:00,960
That could be a problem.

1387
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,960
I have broken out one, right, right.

1388
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:04,960
Yeah.

1389
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:05,960
I am a prisoner down there right now.

1390
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:07,960
Okay, so you need a disguise.

1391
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:08,960
The rest of us do not.

1392
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,960
Okay, so, but wait, when I was a prisoner down there,

1393
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,960
you put me in this room where there were like 18 others of me,

1394
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,960
so really that doesn't seem like a weird thing.

1395
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,960
I don't think one of you would just be wandering around

1396
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:25,960
with them knowing just what kind of person you are.

1397
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

1398
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:28,960
Yeah.

1399
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,960
So maybe we have a disguise for you.

1400
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,960
Sure.

1401
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:32,960
And...

1402
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,960
So I think, you know, we figured out how we're going to get there,

1403
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,960
and probably we don't need to plan at all what's going to happen once we're there.

1404
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,960
We've done it.

1405
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:41,960
We've made a plan, you guys.

1406
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,960
Well, yeah, okay.

1407
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:51,960
Well, I do just a little bit am wondering about maybe the specific kinds of fiends

1408
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,960
or yuck stuff we are going to be.

1409
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:56,960
All of them.

1410
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Yes, I just wonder, what can I hit with my ex while I am down there?

1411
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Is there anything special that I can prepare for?

1412
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:05,960
Tons.

1413
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,960
What lives under the ice in the moat?

1414
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,960
Lives under the ice?

1415
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:09,960
I could hear it.

1416
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,960
Yeah.

1417
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,960
I could hear it down in the prison.

1418
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,960
How familiar are you with aberrations?

1419
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,960
Specifically, undead ones?

1420
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,960
Well, I've seen a couple.

1421
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,960
Imagine a multi-eyed, multi-tentacled monster that can speak inside your head

1422
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
but is undead, so all it does is go brrrrrr,

1423
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,960
but still maintains the power it had beforehand?

1424
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,960
You know what an appleeth is?

1425
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,960
Oh, yeah, yeah, you...

1426
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,960
I heard that you told me that story that you folks fought the appleeth, right?

1427
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,960
In the pyramid.

1428
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,960
Oh, yeah.

1429
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,960
ShangAlydinga Ding Dong had one in like a little pool spot.

1430
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:48,960
Yeah.

1431
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,960
ShangAlydinga Ding Dong, that's good.

1432
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,960
Yeah, it wasn't fun to fight.

1433
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:53,960
This one's undead.

1434
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,960
So even better.

1435
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,960
Yeah.

1436
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:00,960
So there's an aberrant appleeth underneath the ice.

1437
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:01,960
There's the prison.

1438
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,960
You go in and you take the stairwell down

1439
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,960
and there's the prison area.

1440
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,960
Lipsinki, you're familiar?

1441
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1442
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,960
All sorts of specialized hells for each individual.

1443
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:16,960
Could they somehow open?

1444
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,960
There's the limb chute off the prison.

1445
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,960
Have distraction, open prison doors, cause riot.

1446
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Oh, yeah, who else do they have hidden down there?

1447
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,960
Good guys, bad guys, everything in between?

1448
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,960
Well, funny thing, the hero,

1449
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,960
the skull of the hero that's on the wand of Orcus,

1450
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,960
they're somewhere in there.

1451
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,960
It's a very labyrinthine kind of thing.

1452
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:44,960
But if we do want to destroy that item,

1453
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,960
they'll be necessary to release.

1454
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:49,960
Without their skull?

1455
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,960
Something like that, yes.

1456
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,960
Oh, that seems right.

1457
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:57,960
We've got a skull-less fella who can destroy the wand.

1458
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,960
But we'll have to bring him like back to life.

1459
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:01,960
And can you do this?

1460
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,960
Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

1461
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:05,960
I'm good at the opposite of that.

1462
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,960
How long has he been dead?

1463
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,960
Wait, is there something in your book

1464
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,960
that might answer some of these questions, Grancis?

1465
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,960
Oh, yeah, books full of all this great stuff.

1466
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,960
Where is your book, Grancis?

1467
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,960
Oh, well, if you look at the map here,

1468
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,960
it's got this little pinging beacon.

1469
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,960
Looks like it's at the Museum of Greenest.

1470
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:27,960
I think we're going to have to go get his book.

1471
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,960
Let's do it.

1472
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,960
Dumbgeons and Dragons, Season 2, Episode 127,

1473
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,960
starring Amy More as Thea and Night Hunter,

1474
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,960
Carla Maxted as Lipsynke, Tom Laird as Flint,

1475
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,960
with Kyle Claset as Vorunax,

1476
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,960
and Russ More as your dungeon master.

1477
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,960
Production and sound design by Russ More.

1478
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,960
This episode featured music from Epidemic Sound

1479
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,960
and Kavin McLeod of incompetech.filmmusic.io

1480
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:55,960
and sound effects from Epidemic Sound,

1481
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:57,960
Boom Library, and Sound Ideas.

1482
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,960
A huge thank you to our supporting producers,

1483
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,960
Kat Waterflame, Jacob Madden, Christian Brown,

1484
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,960
Devin Michaels, Craig Zeiss, Aaron Stevens,

1485
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,960
Darylith, L.A. Branton, Perry Matey,

1486
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,960
Nathaniel Teeter, and Nicholas Cooper.

1487
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,960
Join us today at Patreon.com slash dumbdragoncast,

1488
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:15,960
where we've reached 100 patrons

1489
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,960
and will be hosting a live improv night

1490
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,960
exclusive for all of our patrons coming up in July.

1491
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Details will be available soon on Patreon and in our Discord.

1492
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,960
Plus, we've just announced some new community goals

1493
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,960
and some amazing new bonus content coming along with them,

1494
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,960
including in-character positive affirmations

1495
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,960
and the return of monthly one-shot episodes

1496
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,960
where we're excited to try out new characters,

1497
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,960
new games, and play a whole smattering of different great things

1498
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,960
that we hope you're gonna love.

1499
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:40,960
Thank you for listening.

1500
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:41,960
Have a great week.

1501
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,960
We'll talk again soon.

1502
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Oh, okay.

1503
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,960
So even better.

1504
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:48,960
Oh, Loki-ish.

1505
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,960
He just wants everyone to know that he's very sad.

1506
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:55,960
He's sleeping.

1507
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:56,960
Sounds very sad.

1508
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:57,960
He's sleeping.

1509
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:58,960
Eyes closed.

1510
00:58:58,960 --> 00:58:59,960
He's crying in his sleep.

1511
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Wonderful.

1512
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,960
Aw, perfect.

1513
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,960
You know, sometimes you just have to cry yourself to sleep.

1514
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,960
Dreaming about all the kennels he can't ruin.

1515
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:08,960
That's right.

1516
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,960
Right.

1517
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,960
And carabiners, carabiners chasing him.

1518
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,960
Dumbgeons & Dragons is a Dumb Dragons production.